Rank |
Fleet |
Boat |
Sail No. |
Type |
Club |
Skipper/Owner |
Rating {At start} |
Race02CW1 15/04/2023 09:30:00 |
Race04CW2 22/04/2023 0i8:00:00 |
Race06CW3 29/04/2023 08:00:00 |
Race11CW4 24/06/2023 10:00:00 |
Race17CW5 19/08/2023 09:00:00 |
Race18CW6 26/08/2023 14:35:00 |
Total |
Nett |
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1st | IRC Class 1 | Mojito | GBR 9047R | J109 | Pwllheli Sailing Club | Peter Dunlop & Victoria Cox | 1.009 | 86.0 | 86.6 | 79.3 | 72.0 | 73.9 | 397.8 | 397.8 | |
2nd | IRC Class 0 | Jackknife | GBR 8859R | J125 | Pwllheli Sailing Club | Andrew & Sam Hall | 1.143 | 70.4 | 64.6 | 57.3 | 82.3 | 83.5 | 358.1 | 358.1 | |
3rd | IRC Class 0 | Gelert | GBR 1681 | Corby 36 | CHPSC | Brian Dixon & Chris Williams | 1.082 | 62.6 | 42.6 | 71.9 | 0.0 DNC | 64.3 | 241.4 | 241.4 | |
4th | IRC Class 2 | ZigZag | GBR 9778 | Sunfast 3200 | Pwllheli Sailing Club | Peter Ashworth | 0.995 | 47.0 | 71.9 | 50.0 | 51.3 | 0.0 DNC | 220.2 | 220.2 | |
5th | IRC Class 2 | Jac Y Do | GBR 8432R | Sunfast 3200i | Pwllheli Sailing Club | Mark and Jo Thompson | 0.987 | 39.1 | 79.3 | 42.6 | 0.0 DNC | 45.1 | 206.1 | 206.1 | |
6th | IRC Class 0 | Jezebel | GBR 8911R | J111 | Pwllheli Sailing Club | Cris Miles | 1.093 | 78.2 | 57.3 | 64.6 | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 200.1 | 200.1 | |
7th | IRC Class 0 | Wild Haggis | GBR 6695R | Farr 30 | RORC | Nigel Ingram | 1.060 | 54.8 | 50.0 | 86.6 | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 191.4 | 191.4 | |
8th | IRC Class 0 | Excession | GBR5608L | Xyacht | Pwllheli Sailing Club | Robert Temple | 1.052 | 31.3 | 35.3 | 28.0 | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 94.6 | 94.6 | |
9th | IRC Class 1 | Panache | IRL 1471 | Jeanneau 3600 | Pwllheli Sailing Club | Ashley Field | 1.033 | 28.0 | 35.3 | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 63.3 | 63.3 | |
10th | IRC Class 2 | HoneyBee | GBR 5373 | CHPSC | William Partington | 0.900 | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 61.6 | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 61.6 | 61.6 | ||
11th | IRC Class 0 | Lightning | GBR8992R | Farr X2 | Paul Sutton | 1.074 | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 54.7 | 54.7 | 54.7 | ||
12th | IRC Class 1 | Evenstar | GBR 3009C | Elan 40 | Ross Boyd | 1.017 | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 | 0.0 | ||
12th | IRC Class 1 | Finally | GBR 6939R | CHPSC | Paul and Sam Ketteringham | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 | 0.0 | |||
12th | IRC Class 1 | Darling XX | GBR 4933R | CHPSC | Stephen Williams | 1.008 | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 | 0.0 | ||
12th | IRC Class 2 | Hullabaloo | GBR 6834T | CHPSC | Keith Greenwood | 0.938 | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 | 0.0 | ||
12th | IRC Class 0 | Max Too | GBR 6509N | Prima | Liverpool YC | Neil Thomas | 1.066 | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
12th | IRC Class 1 | BoJangles | GBR 9496T | J109 | Liverpool YC | Paul Hamson | 0.999 | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
12th | IRC Class 1 | Imp | IRL1990 | Ron Holland | RCYC/CSC | George Radley | 1.005 | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
12th | IRC Class 2 | All or Nothing | GBR3200N | Sunfast 3200 | SLYC/RUYC | Michael Eames | 0.994 | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
12th | IRC Class 0 | Prime Suspect | IRL 5991 | Mills 36 Custom | Kilmore Quay Boat Club | Keith Miller | 1.056 | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
12th | IRC Class 0 | Checkmate XX | IRL 66 | First 50 | Howth Yacht Club | David Cullen & Nigel Biggs | 1.118 | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
12th | IRC Class 1 | Coquine | GBR 1030X | JPK 1030 | RORC | Alan Hannon | 1.021 | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
12th | IRC Class 0 | Ghost Raider | IRL 985 | J111 | HYC | Darragh O'Connor | 1.089 | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
12th | IRC Class 0 | Blaoga | IRL 1704 | Dufour 45E | Howth Yacht Club & LRYC | Emmet Sheridan | 1.080 | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
12th | IRC Class 2 | Blue Oyster | IRL 3852 | Oyster 37 | RCYC | Noel Coleman | 0.928 | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
12th | IRC Class 2 | Krypton | IRL 2600 | First 260 | NationalYacht Club | Alan Turner | 0.872 | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
12th | IRC Class 2 | Shaula | GBR9227T | Sunfast 37 | Liverpool YC | Simon Windle | 0.962 | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
12th | IRC Class 0 | Black Magic | GBR4947R | First 44.7 | Howth Yacht Club | Barry O'Donovan | 1.088 | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
12th | IRC Class 2 | Humdinger | IRL 1357 | Jenneau Sunfast 37 | Arklow Sailing Club | John Conlon | 0.976 | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
12th | IRC Class 0 | Searcher | IRL 2729 | Sunfast 3600 | National Yacht Club | Pete Smyth | 1.044 | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
12th | IRC Class 0 | Samatom | GBR 9244R | GS44R | Howth Yacht Club | Robert Rendell | 1.133 | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
12th | IRC Class 2 | AJ Wanderlust | GBR 8931 R | Sun Odyssey 45.2 | Douglas Bay Yacht Club | Charlene Howard | 0.989 | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
12th | IRC Class 1 | Indian | IRL 1543 | J109 | Howth Yacht Club | Colm Buckley & Simon Knowles | 1.004 | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
12th | IRC Class 0 | Rockabill VI | IRL 1080 | JPK 10.8 | Royal Irish Yacht Club | Paul O'Higgins | 1.054 | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
12th | IRC Class 2 | Black Velvet | IRL 3471 | First 34.7 | Royal Irish Yacht Club | Leslie Parnell | 0.978 | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
12th | IRC Class 0 | Hot Cookie | GBR7536R | Sunfast 3600 | NationalYacht Club | John O'Gorman | 1.036 | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
12th | IRC Class 1 | Ruth | IRL 1383 | J109 | NationalYacht Club | Shanahan Family | 1.009 | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
12th | IRC Class 0 | Tsunami | IRL 4007 | First 40.7 | NationalYacht Club | Michelle Farrell | 1.049 | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
12th | IRC Cruising | Big Deal | IRL 3492 | Grand Soleil 37bc | Foynes YC | Derek Dillon | 1.020 | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
12th | IRC Class 2 | Mayfly | IRL 1241 | First 31.7 | Sailing in Dublin SID Club | Anthony Corbett and Nick Miller | 0.943 | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
12th | IRC Class 2 | State O'Shassis | IRL 638 | Sigma 38 | Royal Irish Yacht Club | Michael Murphy | 0.965 | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
12th | IRC Class 2 | Magic Touch | IRL 44444 | Beneteau First 34.7 | Greystones Sailing Club | Steve Hayes | 0.980 | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 DNC | 0.0 | 0.0 |
IRC 0 =1.045 or greater.
IRC 1 =1.000 to 1.044
IRC 2 = 0.999 or less
Class 1 Silver Fleet = Hull Factor 7.8 or less and DLR 220 or greater
Class 2 Silver Fleet = Hull Factor 7.8 or less and DLR 200 or greater
Series scored using the High Scoring System, the more difficult races are weighted Weighting: Day Coastal 0.9 – Night Coastal 1.0 – Offshore < 70 mile 1.1 – Offshore > 70 miles 1.2 James Eadie Race 1.3
A win in a large fleet will score better than a win in a small fleet using the CHIPS 3 formula.
Rank | Fleet | Boat | Sail No. | Type | Club | Skipper/Owner | Rating {At start} | Start | Finish | Elapsed | Corrected | BCE | BCR | Ave speed | Points |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | IRC Class 1 | Mojito | GBR 9047R | J109 | Pwllheli Sailing Club | Peter Dunlop & Victoria Cox | 1.009 | 09:30:00 | 14:12:10 | 4:42:10 | 4:44:42 | 0:00:00 | 1.009 | 5.103 kn | 86.0 |
2 | IRC Class 0 | Jezebel | GBR 8911R | J111 | Pwllheli Sailing Club | Cris Miles | 1.093 | 09:30:00 | 14:04:42 | 4:34:42 | 5:00:15 | 0:14:13 | 1.036 | 5.242 kn | 78.2 |
3 | IRC Class 0 | Jackknife | GBR 8859R | J125 | Pwllheli Sailing Club | Andrew & Sam Hall | 1.143 | 09:30:00 | 13:53:16 | 4:23:16 | 5:00:55 | 0:14:11 | 1.081 | 5.47 kn | 70.4 |
4 | IRC Class 0 | Gelert | GBR 1681 | Corby 36 | CHPSC | Brian Dixon & Chris Williams | 1.082 | 09:30:00 | 14:14:37 | 4:44:37 | 5:07:57 | 0:21:29 | 1 | 5.059 kn | 62.6 |
5 | IRC Class 0 | Wild Haggis | GBR 6695R | Farr 30 | RORC | Nigel Ingram | 1.060 | 09:30:00 | 14:25:05 | 4:55:05 | 5:12:47 | 0:26:30 | 0.965 | 4.88 kn | 54.8 |
6 | IRC Class 2 | ZigZag | GBR 9778 | Sunfast 3200 | Pwllheli Sailing Club | Peter Ashworth | 0.995 | 09:30:00 | 14:56:12 | 5:26:12 | 5:24:34 | 0:40:04 | 0.873 | 4.414 kn | 47.0 |
7 | IRC Class 2 | Jac Y Do | GBR 8432R | Sunfast 3200i | Pwllheli Sailing Club | Mark and Jo Thompson | 0.987 | 09:30:00 | 15:15:51 | 5:45:51 | 5:41:21 | 0:57:24 | 0.823 | 4.164 kn | 39.1 |
8 | IRC Class 0 | Excession | GBR5608L | Xyacht | Pwllheli Sailing Club | Robert Temple | 1.052 | 09:30:00 | 15:12:49 | 5:42:49 | 6:00:39 | 1:12:11 | 0.83 | 4.2 kn | 31.3 |
Rank | Fleet | Boat | Sail No. | Type | Club | Skipper/Owner | Rating {At start} | Start | Finish | Elapsed | Corrected | BCE | BCR | Ave speed | Points |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | IRC Class 1 | Mojito | GBR 9047R | J109 | Pwllheli Sailing Club | Peter Dunlop & Victoria Cox | 1.009 | 08:30:00 | 11:13:30 | 2:43:30 | 2:44:58 | 0:00:00 | 1.009 | 6.606 kn | 86.6 |
2 | IRC Class 2 | Jac Y Do | GBR 8432R | Sunfast 3200i | Pwllheli Sailing Club | Mark and Jo Thompson | 0.987 | 08:00:00 | 10:52:02 | 2:52:02 | 2:49:48 | 0:04:53 | 0.959 | 6.278 kn | 79.3 |
3 | IRC Class 2 | ZigZag | GBR 9778 | Sunfast 3200 | Pwllheli Sailing Club | Peter Ashworth | 0.995 | 08:00:00 | 10:52:43 | 2:52:43 | 2:51:51 | 0:06:55 | 0.955 | 6.253 kn | 71.9 |
4 | IRC Class 0 | Jackknife | GBR 8859R | J125 | Pwllheli Sailing Club | Andrew & Sam Hall | 1.142 | 09:00:00 | 11:45:35 | 2:45:35 | 3:09:06 | 0:21:07 | 0.996 | 6.522 kn | 64.6 |
5 | IRC Class 0 | Jezebel | GBR 8911R | J111 | Pwllheli Sailing Club | Cris Miles | 1.093 | 09:00:00 | 12:00:59 | 3:00:59 | 3:17:49 | 0:30:03 | 0.912 | 5.967 kn | 57.3 |
6 | IRC Class 0 | Wild Haggis | GBR 6695R | Farr 30 | RORC | Nigel Ingram | 1.060 | 09:00:00 | 12:09:01 | 3:09:01 | 3:20:21 | 0:33:23 | 0.873 | 5.714 kn | 50.0 |
7 | IRC Class 0 | Gelert | GBR 1681 | Corby 36 | CHPSC | Brian Dixon & Chris Williams | 1.082 | 09:00:00 | 12:05:22 | 3:05:22 | 3:20:34 | 0:32:54 | 0.89 | 5.826 kn | 42.6 |
8 | IRC Class 0 | Excession | GBR5608L | Xyacht | Pwllheli Sailing Club | Robert Temple | 1.052 | 09:00:00 | 12:14:20 | 3:14:20 | 3:24:26 | 0:37:31 | 0.849 | 5.557 kn | 35.3 |
9 | IRC Class 1 | Panache | IRL 1471 | Jeanneau 3600 | Pwllheli Sailing Club | Ashley Field | 1.033 | 08:30:00 | 11:58:59 | 3:28:59 | 3:35:53 | 0:49:17 | 0.789 | 5.168 kn | 28.0 |
Rank | Fleet | Boat | Sail No. | Type | Club | Skipper/Owner | Rating {At start} | Start | Finish | Elapsed | Corrected | BCE | BCR | Ave speed | Points |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | IRC Class 0 | Wild Haggis | GBR 6695R | Farr 30 | RORC | Nigel Ingram | 1.060 | 09:00:00 | 16:32:14 | 7:32:14 | 7:59:22 | 0:00:00 | 1.06 | 5.174 kn | 86.6 |
2 | IRC Class 1 | Mojito | GBR 9047R | J109 | Pwllheli Sailing Club | Peter Dunlop & Victoria Cox | 1.009 | 08:30:00 | 16:43:30 | 8:13:30 | 8:17:56 | 0:18:25 | 0.971 | 4.742 kn | 79.3 |
3 | IRC Class 0 | Gelert | GBR 1681 | Corby 36 | CHPSC | Brian Dixon & Chris Williams | 1.082 | 09:00:00 | 16:43:49 | 7:43:49 | 8:21:51 | 0:20:47 | 1.034 | 5.045 kn | 71.9 |
4 | IRC Class 0 | Jezebel | GBR 8911R | J111 | Pwllheli Sailing Club | Cris Miles | 1.093 | 09:00:00 | 17:03:43 | 8:03:43 | 8:48:42 | 0:45:08 | 0.991 | 4.838 kn | 64.6 |
5 | IRC Class 0 | Jackknife | GBR 8859R | J125 | Pwllheli Sailing Club | Andrew & Sam Hall | 1.142 | 09:00:00 | 16:52:26 | 7:52:26 | 8:59:31 | 0:52:40 | 1.015 | 4.953 kn | 57.3 |
6 | IRC Class 2 | ZigZag | GBR 9778 | Sunfast 3200 | Pwllheli Sailing Club | Peter Ashworth | 0.995 | 08:00:00 | 17:37:58 | 9:37:58 | 9:35:05 | 1:36:11 | 0.829 | 4.049 kn | 50.0 |
7 | IRC Class 2 | Jac Y Do | GBR 8432R | Sunfast 3200i | Pwllheli Sailing Club | Mark and Jo Thompson | 0.987 | 08:00:00 | 17:45:40 | 9:45:40 | 9:38:03 | 1:39:59 | 0.818 | 3.995 kn | 42.6 |
8 | IRC Class 1 | Panache | IRL 1471 | Jeanneau 3600 | Pwllheli Sailing Club | Ashley Field | 1.033 | 08:30:00 | 18:00:07 | 9:30:07 | 9:48:56 | 1:46:04 | 0.841 | 4.104 kn | 35.3 |
9 | IRC Class 0 | Excession | GBR5608L | Xyacht | Pwllheli Sailing Club | Robert Temple | 1.052 | 09:00:00 | 19:10:01 | 10:10:01 | 10:41:44 | 2:34:21 | 0.786 | 3.836 kn | 28.0 |
Rank | Fleet | Boat | Sail No. | Type | Club | Skipper/Owner | Rating {At start} | Start | Finish | Elapsed | Corrected | BCE | BCR | Ave speed | Points |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | IRC Class 0 | Jackknife | GBR 8859R | J125 | Pwllheli Sailing Club | Andrew & Sam Hall | 1.142 | 11:15:00 | 14:52:01 | 3:37:01 | 4:07:50 | 0:00:00 | 1.142 | 6.912 kn | 82.3 |
2 | IRC Class 1 | Mojito | GBR 9047R | J109 | Pwllheli Sailing Club | Peter Dunlop & Victoria Cox | 1.009 | 10:45:00 | 14:53:13 | 4:08:13 | 4:10:27 | 0:02:36 | 0.998 | 6.043 kn | 72.0 |
3 | IRC Class 2 | HoneyBee | GBR 5373 | CHPSC | William Partington | 0.900 | 10:15:00 | 15:22:10 | 5:07:10 | 4:36:27 | 0:31:48 | 0.807 | 4.883 kn | 61.6 | |
4 | IRC Class 2 | ZigZag | GBR 9778 | Sunfast 3200 | Pwllheli Sailing Club | Peter Ashworth | 0.995 | 10:15:00 | 14:56:40 | 4:41:40 | 4:40:16 | 0:32:35 | 0.88 | 5.325 kn | 51.3 |
Rank | Fleet | Boat | Sail No. | Type | Club | Skipper/Owner | Rating {At start} | Place | Points |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | IRC Class 0 | Jackknife | GBR 8859R | J125 | Pwllheli Sailing Club | Andrew & Sam Hall | 1.142 | DNS | 0.0 |
Rank | Fleet | Boat | Sail No. | Type | Club | Skipper/Owner | Rating {At start} | Start | Finish | Elapsed | Corrected | BCE | BCR | Ave speed | Points |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | IRC Class 0 | Jackknife | GBR 8859R | J125 | Pwllheli Sailing Club | Andrew & Sam Hall | 1.142 | 14:35:00 | 18:05:15 | 3:30:15 | 4:00:06 | 0:00:00 | 1.142 | 8.561 kn | 83.5 |
2 | IRC Class 1 | Mojito | GBR 9047R | J109 | Pwllheli Sailing Club | Peter Dunlop & Victoria Cox | 1.009 | 14:20:00 | 18:23:08 | 4:03:08 | 4:05:19 | 0:05:10 | 0.988 | 7.403 kn | 73.9 |
3 | IRC Class 0 | Gelert | GBR 1681 | Corby 36 | CHPSC | Brian Dixon & Chris Williams | 1.082 | 14:35:00 | 18:33:08 | 3:58:08 | 4:17:40 | 0:16:13 | 1.008 | 7.559 kn | 64.3 |
4 | IRC Class 0 | Lightning | GBR8992R | Farr X2 | Paul Sutton | 1.074 | 14:35:00 | 18:41:00 | 4:06:00 | 4:24:12 | 0:22:26 | 0.976 | 7.317 kn | 54.7 | |
5 | IRC Class 2 | Jac Y Do | GBR 8432R | Sunfast 3200i | Pwllheli Sailing Club | Mark and Jo Thompson | 0.987 | 14:05:00 | 18:33:13 | 4:28:13 | 4:24:44 | 0:24:57 | 0.895 | 6.711 kn | 45.1 |
Code | Description | Points |
---|---|---|
DNC | Did not come to the starting area | 0 |
DNS | Came to the start area but did not start | 0 |
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